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I think it is important to remember how the money came into your hands to begin with and view it as a social process that extends over time space and place. People choose to buy the albums, but the roads you drive are often payed by people who do not know who you are.<br /><br />You (Oteil) play a bass designed and built by other people. You play songs written by other people. You drive on roads paid for and paved by other people. Most of the land you perform and live on was owned by other people who met a horrible end so the concept of "my money" could take root. I am all for criticizing how production and redistribution works. However, I am hesitant at overemphasizing assessments that examine power from individual accumulation models.<br /><br />I had a chance to meet Butch and the rest of the Band a few years back. I got to hang out and meet with people. I appreciated the hospitality shown by the Elder Statesmen and sadly experienced some attitudes displayed by some others that emphasized the "my" or "me" perception of relationships with many things including the abundance of prime rib and Pepsi (I was told not to touch;)even though we had brought some collards, chicken, and other delicacies (we were a crew of Southern people, both African and Indian with some cooking skills) for the Band to enjoy.<br /><br />This made me realize the extent to which marketization can creep into a musical experience and sell it as a "Brotherhood."<br />It made me sad. Granted, boundaries are important and I am sure all of the attention and hangers on are annoying. I still got the impression that I could be a thief if I drank a cup of coffee.<br /><br />I was refreshed to find that Butch still had the "Brotherhood" as a part of his identity. My experiences at the shows and these posts affirm that to an extent. I appreciate his talent, perspective, and kindness. He knows a lot about dogs, too. To some of the younger folks...you are of a different generation and framework. I hope you come to understand that "my money" was someone else's at some point and that it's value is mediated and assigned through social mechanisms and circumstances that do not rely on individual accumulation assessments of value. To an extent, we are all in the "Band." We just need to make that work, together. Jon Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09149331893429762209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5727369088532211108.post-62462778072189111392012-08-18T11:43:35.922-04:002012-08-18T11:43:35.922-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jon Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09149331893429762209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5727369088532211108.post-65832799680482251892012-04-18T09:53:23.840-04:002012-04-18T09:53:23.840-04:00Butch, I know I am late to this site, but I was br...Butch, I know I am late to this site, but I was brought up in the Southern Appalachian coal fields, where L.B.J. started the Great Society. I have seen more government programs that you have played gigs. Every one should take note of the results, a school system that has barely moved off the bottom, a great army of lawyers that will get you full disability if you get bumped into at Wal-Mart, and a population totally addicted to pain killers with an abundance of doctors to write the scripts. This has not been under Ronnie’s watch but a long line of local, state and federal democrats. I like you want a solution, but if you look at the results of this 50 year socioeconomic experiment, you would say it is a disaster. I am all for government spending that works, but to perpetuate your own business in the form of programs I am not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5727369088532211108.post-87838414230238445622011-12-31T02:05:18.396-05:002011-12-31T02:05:18.396-05:00Butch you seem to be as misinformed as many of the...Butch you seem to be as misinformed as many of the people leaving comments. No one knows it all, but many have an opinion. I'll just comment on the "Budget Surplus" that you say Bush inherited.<br />This has been repeated over and over and is simply not true. The "Budget Surplus" you speak of was actually based upon CBO projections over a ten year period based upon the continued success of the DOTCOM craze and we all know what happened there. The truth is with the failure of the DOTCOM era the economy was already in a steep decline when President Bush took office. So he did not inherit a Surplus just the opposite.Signman; ABB Fannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5727369088532211108.post-54522284754051875292011-11-22T20:21:16.610-05:002011-11-22T20:21:16.610-05:00MR TRUCKS, YOU MAKE MANY INACCURATE STATEMENTS ...MR TRUCKS, YOU MAKE MANY INACCURATE STATEMENTS IN YOUR POLITICAL RANT . BUT, THE MOST BLATANT HAS TO BE "REGULATIONS ON BUSINESS ARE NON-EXISTENT". OBVIOUSLY, YOU NEVER RAN A BUSINESS! I GUESS, OSHA,EPA,D/O LABOR, LOCAL GOV'T,ETC... DON'T REALLY REGULATE MUSICIANS. I RESPECT YOUR OPINIONS. BUT, PLEASE DO YOUR RESEARCH. KEEP THE MUSIC COMING<br />THANKS<br />JOHNAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5727369088532211108.post-63753339561667724692011-09-28T16:21:27.307-04:002011-09-28T16:21:27.307-04:00Butch
I couldn't agree more. With organisati...Butch<br /><br />I couldn't agree more. With organisations as vast as federal government there are always going to be problems with money being mis-spent, mis-appropriated or simply mis-placed. But that doesn't mean the concept of taxing the population in order to spend money on services for the population is a bad idea.<br /><br />Quite the contrary: as you point out, the services provided in return for your tax dollar (or, in my case, pound) are simply too numerous to mention and are in most cases taken entirely for granted.<br /><br />It seems that essentially people object to the idea of their taxes being spent on things which may not be of direct personal benefit, such as health-care for the poor. It's symptomatic of the "me" attitude which is promoted by rampant capitalism.<br /><br />Things will never change for the better until people realise that the fundamental inequalities in society, which are the root cause of most of society's problems, need to be addressed by giving up a little more of what you have to those who have less.<br /><br />Cheers!<br /><br />DanCoolerkinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09361672497440531260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5727369088532211108.post-7395381681660546232011-09-23T13:52:26.520-04:002011-09-23T13:52:26.520-04:00Hi Butch,
While I agree with some of the statemen...Hi Butch,<br /><br />While I agree with some of the statements that Oteil made, I do think we should keep as much money in our own pockets. I am an avid supporter of a flat tax and get rid of many of the loopholes and the feds could collect a good amount of money. I do though see the need for infrastucture to be done. I do find the fact that you place no blame for the economic mess on the federal government which I disagree with. The policies fannie and freddie created (under Carter) which strove to make home ownership easier for people, while being an good idea completley backfired when tried. the feds pushed just as hard for some of those crazy mortgage policies and told banks that the feds would back the loans. Yes the Mortgage companies need to take blame too because they went crazy with giving them out but Fannie and Freddie and the Fed need to take 50% of the blame for this as welll, the blame cannot be just left to the private sector, the gov played a role and a big role in this too. I would never say pay no taxes, I know there is a need but i think that 25-30% of a flat tax with minimal loopholes for everyone would bring in a lot more dough than we have now! I also think the financial crisis was not just one side it was both working hand in hand. Hey thanks for listening and keep up the great tunes and blogs - Dave from MAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5727369088532211108.post-51911492961315786632011-09-16T15:02:23.255-04:002011-09-16T15:02:23.255-04:00Given the enormous power this New super committee ...Given the enormous power this New super committee has and the implications of their decisions...<br />We need everyone to contact their congressmen and Rep's ASAP...<br />and get this bill H.R.2860 - Deficit Committee Transparency Act passed ASAP!!!<br /><br />We don't have much time<br />Read the bill here...<br /><br />http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h2860/text<br /><br />Contact you reps by starting Here...<br /><br />http://sunlightfoundation.com/opensupercongress/The Wired Journalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04038615553661279539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5727369088532211108.post-24709977739393121542011-09-16T14:31:56.975-04:002011-09-16T14:31:56.975-04:00Hi Butch,
I'm glad I found your blog. Your ...Hi Butch,<br /> I'm glad I found your blog. Your message strikes me as down to earth and rational and the product of a man with a functioning BS detector. <br /> <br />Thanks for everything over the years<br /><br />bk, dallasAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5727369088532211108.post-51973796112302014542011-09-15T14:16:24.643-04:002011-09-15T14:16:24.643-04:00I think it would be a fairly accurate statement to...I think it would be a fairly accurate statement to say that nothing is really going to change until all these people in office start dropping from lead poisoning and the people revolt....<br />The problem then becomes managing and controlling the mob mentality of the masses and restoring law and order. And the Union may become fragmented in the process. I don't mean to sound fatalistic but I just don't see how any new laws and or bills are going to save us from the people that are creating this mess. I honestly fear for what our children may have to experience and endure in the coming decade or so.<br />Personally I honestly feel the whole system needs to be overhauled and the basic principles of our constitution restored. Our constitution and society has been infected with the cancer of the dark side of our human nature and it is (and has been) spreading like gang green for years and killing us all and our way of life slowly. We can all sit here and discuss this and vent till the cows come home but nothing will change.<br /><br />THE SYSTEM IS BROKEN!!!<br /><br /><br />"The Meek will Inherit The Earth Only When They Get The Balls To Take It Back"The Wired Journalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04038615553661279539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5727369088532211108.post-28647775617685974892011-09-15T11:30:41.301-04:002011-09-15T11:30:41.301-04:00Afghanistan I would Classify as Obama's war he...Afghanistan I would Classify as Obama's war he has more than doubled the size of the effort. We are barely in Bagdad and Bush started clearing that out before he left. What has Obama done besides spend? The Economy is worse, spending is worse, healthcosts are worse, energy prices are worse. Anything good? He has no clue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5727369088532211108.post-74398679996876677052011-09-15T11:19:51.796-04:002011-09-15T11:19:51.796-04:00"There is a point of over-taxation when the t..."There is a point of over-taxation when the tax burden starts to hurt economic growth. We are at that point."<br /><br />Anonymous: If this is the case than why did the economy tank after Bush's tax cuts went into effect? Why did CEO bonuses go through the roof? Why did we hemmorage jobs during that time? It seems to me that if you give a company a bunch of tax breaks,you are giving them the ability to make more of a profit while producing less. I have a friend who is now out of work because his indepently owned construction company he worked for closed.The owner made enough money through tax breaks, profits, and investments that he no longer needed to burden himself with the day to day grind of running the business. Thirty people lost their jobs. It seems to be very idealistic to expect companies to take these tax breaks and go out and hire a bunch of new people. I think history has proven that they use the tax breaks to bring up the profit margin, pay off the investors, and enrich themselves personally. <br /><br />BrianAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5727369088532211108.post-18828152706394293012011-09-15T11:10:27.528-04:002011-09-15T11:10:27.528-04:00Great dialogue.
Butch, I would challenge you to r...Great dialogue.<br /><br />Butch, I would challenge you to read Neal Boortz "Fair Tax" Book. No only does this plan eliminate the fraud and waste, it makes it so that important programs Social Security are funded and secured. <br /><br />http://www.amazon.com/FairTax-Book-Neal-Boortz/dp/0060875410Sullyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02115171808782264028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5727369088532211108.post-28060283586794791582011-09-15T09:49:14.077-04:002011-09-15T09:49:14.077-04:00Bush also had congress put two wars and the prescr...Bush also had congress put two wars and the prescription drug bill off of the budget. That trillion or so doesn't show up in your numbers. He also inherited a budget surplus. We know what Obama faced. That ain't spin.Butch Truckshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08175786196916620501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5727369088532211108.post-75896613156927444122011-09-14T20:46:30.541-04:002011-09-14T20:46:30.541-04:00Bush is a kitty kat compared to what Obama has don...Bush is a kitty kat compared to what Obama has done. Butch your just trying to deflect and put a different spin on the issues. So you think the deficit is fine, Obama is not responsible for anything, our taxes are too low. We have looked at the numbers more has been spent under Obama then any president in history.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5727369088532211108.post-89842643472503515532011-09-14T19:35:57.114-04:002011-09-14T19:35:57.114-04:00If you took all the money from all the billionaire...If you took all the money from all the billionaires in the US, you would only come up with $1.3 trillion. The current deficit sits at $14 trillion.<br /><br />http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/business/interesting-numbers-forbes-rich-list_446045.html<br /><br />Yea, what the hell. Let's just keep spending.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5727369088532211108.post-53999070244547314132011-09-14T14:17:44.784-04:002011-09-14T14:17:44.784-04:00Go back and look at the money spent under Bush. It...Go back and look at the money spent under Bush. It blows Obama out of the water....<br /><br />Is that really true???<br /> <br />Care to back up that statement Mr. Trucks by providing us with this Administrations figures? (don't forget the nation debt)<br />so far we have 8yrs for bush vs 2 1/2 for Obama<br /><br />The Bush administration racked up deficits of $158 billion in 2002, <br />$378 billion in 2003, <br />$413 billion in 2004, <br />$318 billion in 2005, <br />$248 billion in 2006, <br />$162 billion in 2007, <br />$410 billion in 2008.<br />And a five trillion increase in national Debt in 8 years...<br /><br />Sally H.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5727369088532211108.post-81328328698099061172011-09-14T13:31:15.326-04:002011-09-14T13:31:15.326-04:00No one is advocating "no taxes." In fact...No one is advocating "no taxes." In fact, that is not what I got out of Oteil's post. There is a point of over-taxation when the tax burden starts to hurt economic growth. We are at that point. On top of that, people can see that there tax dollars are being wasted and they've had enough.<br /><br />Stop taking the anti-tax message to the extreme.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5727369088532211108.post-46555672389376002142011-09-14T13:23:03.043-04:002011-09-14T13:23:03.043-04:00"He is the president. He has no power whatsoe..."He is the president. He has no power whatsoever to spend."<br /><br />With that logic, you should stop referring to "Bush tax cuts."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5727369088532211108.post-63850053190742731122011-09-14T12:21:45.690-04:002011-09-14T12:21:45.690-04:00How about we stop with this foolish statement &quo...How about we stop with this foolish statement "Obama simply spends too much." He is the president. He has no power whatsoever to spend. That power rests with congress. How many times do you have to hear that? Please go do some research and learn how our government works before making totally false statements like that. That is one of those lies that has been stated so many times people just accept it as true. CONGRESS is in charge of the budget. Not the president. He also has no power over Wall Street as at least one of our posters likes to think. Go back and look at the money spent under Bush. It blows Obama out of the water. Bush, however did not spend it, he may have influenced congress to do so but he himself did not have that power.Butch Truckshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08175786196916620501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5727369088532211108.post-50452805177632853352011-09-14T11:48:29.040-04:002011-09-14T11:48:29.040-04:00We can't afford to build anything on a grand s...We can't afford to build anything on a grand scale we need to pay off our debt before we even dream about it. Obama simply spends too much and you want him to spend more. 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I'm not rich myself, but I can't complain either. If my taxes were to benefit people like myself only, I would consider them wasted. I want them to benefit people who don't have roof over their heads, can't afford food on the table or could not afford going to a hospital otherwise.<br />As a matter of fact, in working so called "welfare states", people don't even need guns to defend themselves at home (refering to Oteil's post)...Tom JFnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5727369088532211108.post-40646925326028449572011-09-13T18:47:46.271-04:002011-09-13T18:47:46.271-04:00What I am the most concerned about is that it seem...What I am the most concerned about is that it seems that more and more of the country view taxes as evil, theft, whatever. That our tax system is way out of whack and needs major repair is a given. That we can have a country that even resembles the one we grew up in without taxes is an impossibility. Look back two to three generations or even more and look at the incredible infrastructure, system of national parks, take your pick. These were national projects on a national scale paid for with federal funds. When you start calling taxes "theft" you're throwing out the baby with the bath water. I want my children and grandchildren to benefit from some grand national projects that we began with no thought of them being completed in our lives. That is what we got, what are we doing? the answer is to grab hold of the last bit of democracy that is left and force the bastards in charge to clean up the act. Reform the tax system so that it is fair, balanced moves up back toward the lead in what matters in this world. Sorry Oteil Ron Paul just don't get it. What, following his policies, would we ever build on a grand scale that we could be proud of?Butch Truckshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08175786196916620501noreply@blogger.com